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April 17, 2017

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Oftentimes, entrepreneurs forget to attend to their health from working too much. As we have heard, “Health is wealth.” This statement resonates so much with what ve, does on true healing. He believes in helping people understand the root causes of health problems. Showing his Disease Tree, he raises four root causes that are taking a toll on our health, not only on the physical but the emotional and mental aspects as well. Steven talks about the time when he first started this journey and provides some insights and recommendations on how we could take better care of our health, putting foremost the importance of finding true healing within us.

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Addressing The Disease Tree To Find True Healing with Steven Horne

I have a special guest with me. His name is Steven Horne. He is a professional member and the past president of the American Herbalists Guild. He’s also a professional member of the International Iridology Practitioners Association. He’s an herbalist, a natural health teacher, an author, a consultant and his work has taken him not only throughout the US and Canada, but he’s also gone to Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand, England and mainland China. He has a wealth of knowledge and people want to hear his knowledge.

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He’s spoken at places like HerbFest, Whole Foods Expo, Clayton College’s annual conference and lots of other places. He’s a very popular speaker. How I became aware of him is because he is the author of many books and courses on natural healing, including Coming Clean: Your Guide to Detoxification, The Comprehensive Guide to Nature’s Sunshine Products and The Heart’s Key to Health, Happiness and Success. His latest work is Modern Herbal Medicine. It was co-authored. He’s the Founder of The School of Modern Herbal Medicine. He’s got online classes and courses. I’m excited to have him here because I know so many of the heart-based business owners are very confused and very concerned about health wellness, how they’re supposed to eat, and how they can use food to heal their bodies. Steven, welcome to the show. I’m so glad you’re here.

Thank you, Terri. I appreciate that.

Tell me what all these things that I said mean.

I’m interested in helping people understand the root causes of their health problems. I go after that rather than trying to treat things symptomatically or form the orientation of disease. One of the big things I teach is something called the disease tree, which is that health problems that arise in our lives from four main root causes, unresolved mental and emotional stress, lack of nutrients, exposure to toxins and injury, physical injuries or things where we’re not taking care of our body physically, like not getting enough sleep or enough exercise. It all arises from those things. What I explained is natural healing isn’t about treating disease. It’s about getting a person to start doing the things they should have done in the first place to stay healthy. Therefore, giving your body a chance to repair itself and heal.

How did you get interested in this? What showed up for you that got you so interested in this?

I had a lot of health problems when I was young. I went to the modern medical route and I never got any relief. It wasn’t until I started dabbling in herbs and going to a chiropractor and trying some alternative methods that I started to get relief from my chronic sinus problems. The fact that I’d become interested in edible and medicinal plants as a teenager from the standpoint of outdoor survival, that propelled my interest into it.

How did you figure out that you wanted to do so much teaching, training, speaking, and writing? One of the reasons I ask this is because a lot of the people on the journey that we come across had a lot of interests and felt like they have to pick one thing and they don’t know which way to go. How did you’ve figure that out for yourself?

I actually majored in communications. I’ve always been interested in writing, broadcasting, public speaking, the development of educational materials and so forth. My interest and love in natural healing and so forth for myself merged with my career. That’s what happened. It became the content for my love of writing and teaching.

If someone picks up your books, what are they going to learn? What are they going to get? What are they going to be able to do? What’s your mission and purpose in being an author?

It’s to make natural healing simpler. I am trying to shortcut the learning process by teaching people principles rather than a whole big, long list of diseases and here’s what to do for them. Even though my two books, The Comprehensive Guide to Nature’s Sunshine Products and Modern Herbal Medicine do that, they try to tie it back to cure these core health principles. Basically, if most people would give up refined carbohydrates and refined fats and oil and eat a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables and whole natural foods, that right there would probably solve anywhere from a third to a half of their health problems because that’s one thing.

Emotions are a big key to our well-being because the body talks to us with sensations. Click To Tweet

I have a neurological disease, Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, and I have tried everything. Even Ketamine infusions and all kinds of things. I was getting worse and not better. Then, I found a nature path and she said, “We’re going to change your diet completely. You’re not going to eat any gluten anymore. You’re not going to eat any dairy. You’re not going to have any sugars or artificial sweeteners. You’re going to eat no processed foods. You’re going to focus on fruits and vegetables and some healthy fats and that’s what you’re going to be eating. Within two weeks of doing that, I was a completely different person and I’ve continued to eat that way by choice. I wouldn’t even think of eating another way because it made such a difference in my physical body. This won’t surprise you I’m sure, but what I also noticed is that instantly people were saying to me, “Did you cut your hair? You look different.”

You actually do look better because beauty starts from the inside out anyway. The other thing I noticed is when I gave up refined sugar and all refined carbohydrates, it was like my head came out of a fog. I could think more clearly than I’ve ever been able to think in my whole life. A lot of people are so full of processed fats and refined carbohydrates and they don’t get the protein, antioxidants and things they need that the brain doesn’t even work well. They don’t even realize that they’re thinking through this big mental fog.

I’m glad you brought that up because I used to tell my husband all the time. I said, “I don’t know if it’s the Ketamine or all the medicines I’m on, but I always feel like I have a foggy brain.” When I started to eat differently, I noticed the foggy brain went away and it’s fascinating to me. I rarely eat something that isn’t good and nutritious for my body because it’s just choice. There was a day that somebody made me some gluten-free bread, which I normally don’t eat because it’s made with other processed foods but I said, “All right.” They made it and brought us a meal. I ate two pieces of bread. That’s all I ate and within two to three hours I had that same foggy brain back. I’m like, “Isn’t that interesting?”

That happens to me when I eat anything with refined sugar in it. You start to get to the point where you don’t even want the junk foods because you feel so good on other foods that you wouldn’t even want to think of eating them. It’s like eating something that’s disgusting and people don’t understand that. When you get used to healthy food, junk food is disgusting. I want to also say that one of the things I learned is that a symptom is not a disease. When you think about sickness, for example, a cold, the runny nose, the fever, the coughing, the sneezing, that sort of thing, you think of that as the sickness. That’s not the sickness. That’s the immune system fighting off the disease. A runny nose is created by your immune system. The fever is created by your immune system. Most of what people are doing to treat disease is they’re treating symptoms which is counteracting what the body is trying to do to get well.

I’ve never heard that before.

That’s why I have this raised. The reason why they’ll never discover the cure for the common cold is because the cold is the cure. You actually use herbs that help your body do that. They help it sweat. It helps the sinus drains. If you think about when you eat hot and spicy food how it makes sinuses drain. If you eat a bunch of hot, spicy, pungent herbs like cayenne, ginger, garlic and so forth, when you’re getting cold so that you make that happen faster, you actually get over the cold quicker.

If you were going to give a couple of tips to help our audience feel better, what are some of the things that you would tell them to do or not do starting now?

Besides the dietary things that we mentioned, another thing I find especially with chronic illness is that a person’s mental and more importantly emotional state plays a big role in that. One of the reasons why I liked your show is because I often tell people that emotions are a big key to our well-being because the body talks to us with sensations. It gives us sensations of hunger, thirst, fatigue and so forth to tell us what it needs. Emotions are related to our heart, into our social interactions with the world and other people. Emotions are doing a very similar thing to hunger, thirst and fatigue. Even our so-called negative emotions are trying to tell us that we’re out of balance, we’re not thinking right, and we’re not acting right. We’re out of balance with the world. When we suppress our emotions and deny our emotions, we’re denying our understanding of what we need to do to bring ourselves back into balance and harmony. That can eventually make us physically sick. It’s important for people to start learning how to utilize their emotions correctly and learn how to listen to their body and listen to their heart.

If you're doing it and not getting that result, it's not working. Click To Tweet

I’m all about heart and our audience is all about Heartrepreneur and being about heart too. That is so important and so many people don’t tune into themselves. We just run, we go to the next drug and the next doctor. If we tune more into ourselves and we listen to ourselves, our bodies want to heal. They want to heal naturally and they want to heal themselves. I always marvel when you cut yourself it’s like, “My finger healed up, it closed all by itself. I didn’t even do anything.” How does that happen?

That’s how healing takes place, it takes place from a force within us. That force within us is always trying to communicate what it needs to run our body and run our life. We’ve been trained to listen to the experts, trust what we’re told in our head, and deny our own subjective experience about what’s working for us and what’s not working for us. If something’s not working for you, investigate and try something different.

What’s the first sign that somebody should look for to go, “This probably isn’t working for me?”

Just the fact that when you’re doing something, what’s the result you’re expecting? If you’re doing it and not getting that result, it’s not working. Try something else. It’s that simple. I’ve spent a lot of time working with people to learn to trust their own instincts. A lot of times people know what it is that’s making them ill, but they don’t trust themselves enough to believe their own intuition.

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True Healing: A lot of times, people know what it is that’s making them ill, but they don’t trust themselves enough to believe their own intuition.

I encourage my audience to remember that we’re looking at you as a comprehensive human being, as a Heartrepreneur. In order to be serving other people and getting your mission out there, you have to take care of you. They always tell you in the plane to put the oxygen mask on you first. You have to come from healthy body, healthy mind and healthy spirit so you can do your work in the best way. I brought Steven here because I want you to absolutely be able to take care of you. Steven, how can they touch base with you and find your books?

They can Google my name, Steven Horne, and they’ll find me very easily on the first page of the search. Also, if you go to, that’s where my school is. You can find some more about eBooks, sign up for my newsletter and read some of my articles.

This has been valuable. I’ve learned so much and I want to thank you. I know you’re very busy just reading your bio. Thank you so much for coming here to Heartrepreneur Radio. It’s been phenomenal. Thank you for joining us at Heartrepreneur Radio. Make sure that you do tune in regularly and subscribe. Hit the button on iTunes to subscribe so you don’t miss any episodes. I have a lot more phenomenal guests just like Steven Horne has been. You’ll get to learn more and get to really in these short little nuggets to improve your business and your life.

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About Steven Horne

Steven Horne 219x300 - Heartrepreneur® Radio | Episode 28 | Addressing The Disease Tree To Find True Healing with Steven HorneSteven Horne is a professional member of the American Herbalists Guild.  He offers consultations by phone and in person at his office in St. George, UT.  Steven uses iridology, tongue and pulse analysis, muscle response testing, glandular body typing and nutritional blood chemistry analysis as assessment tools.  He counsels people on diet, lifestyle, herbs, nutritional supplements and emotional healing work to help them create a healthier life.



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