How do you define an extraordinary life? Experiences have taught us that it’s not about having money, fame, or career. In this episode, personal coach and host Nathan Seaward opens about “having it all” and still feeling empty inside. His quest for self-discovery and excitement in life took him from his 16-year career as a pilot to coaching. Now, he teaches his clients how to create memories that they will talk about for the rest of their lives. Learn how you, too, can live an extraordinary life.
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Living An Extraordinary Life With Nathan Seaward
I have with me Nathan Seaward. Nathan is helping people create memories that they can talk about for the rest of their lives. Nathan, welcome to our show.
Thank you, Sam. It’s good to be here.
What is it that gets these people in your presence that gives them these memories that they can talk about for the rest of their lives?
My focus is to help people live an extraordinary life. It’s part of my own story. I was an airline pilot for sixteen years. It was a boyhood dream. Like a lot of people, I ended up at a point where I was living out my dream but it felt empty inside. There was something missing. It was a horrible revelation to come to that. I was at the peak of my career, earning a ton of money and still felt like there was something missing. I had to go on a journey of self-discovery to be honest with myself and to figure out what was missing. Now, that’s what I help people do is to be honest with themselves if they’re in that situation and figure out what’s missing.
One of the ways we do that is by taking people on adventures. I believe that a lot of people are bored. They’re looking to find happiness. What I think they mean is excitement. They want more excitement in their life. They want to wake up and be excited about the day. One way to give them a little bit of excitement is to take them on these incredible adventures, where we make people leave their phones behind, leave their laptop behind, we don’t have any alcohol and no drugs on the trip. We go and do an incredible adventure with a bunch of people. We allow them to get out with nature and connect with people like what we used to do at school camp when we stay up late. We’re talking on our bunks and start to cultivate that level of excitement and adventure that maybe has disappeared a little bit from their lives.
I haven’t heard the word adventure in a long time. I’ve done plenty of adventures. You’re an airline pilot and you’re getting burned out, how did you know you needed to make a shift? There are many people that are working at a job, which I call the journey of the broke, and they want to make a shift. What gave you that inkling that you wanted to make the shift?A lot of people who are earning well are dying inside. Click To Tweet
I knew I wasn’t satisfied doing what I was doing. I think what a lot of us do is we try different external things. We think, “Maybe if I get a promotion, maybe if I earn a little bit more money, or maybe if I take on a different challenge at work, that will make me happy.” What I did is I changed airlines. I worked for four different airlines. Maybe it’s the type of flying I was doing. Maybe the schedule is too hectic in this airline. Maybe I should go to another one. Eventually, I found myself flying in Japan. Quite openly, I was earning about $20,000 a month, tax-free. I was working two weeks out of the month. It was a dream. I ran out of excuses. There was no better flying job on the planet than this one. I was still deep down bored, felt empty, and felt unsatisfied. I couldn’t imagine myself doing this for another 30 years. At some point I had to look at it and go, “Maybe there’s something else here. Maybe there’s something else than changing airlines for a fifth time.”
How did you pick this business then?
Part of the same story is often times when we don’t listen to some of these internal clues, the feeling of emptiness, starting to drink more and our personal relationships are suffering. These are some of the outside factors that we tend to ignore when we’re feeling this way. For me, I had a big relationship breakdown and a very nasty breakup. It led me to this rock bottom moment of going, “What’s going on? What do I do?” I happened to be following a personal development blogger. He happened to be running a twelve-week course. He called it the Jedi Training, which is fun brand. It was basically how to uplevel your life. I thought, “I will try anything at this moment.” I started doing that and I ended up working with him as my coach.
I didn’t really know what coaching was, but he ended up coaching me. After the process of experiencing coaching and what it did for me, it made me understand why my relationship broke up. Also, deeper why I wasn’t happy. What a greater mission or a more impactful life might look for me. I thought, “What you’ve done for me is extraordinary. This is what I want to do for other people.” He was living in Bali at the time. He’d been living in California before that. I thought, “I wish I could just live all around the world and help people.” I was paying him a lot of money, so I thought, “There’s money in this as well.” It was an intersection of all these things. I thought, “This could be an amazing next step for me.”
You started this business and what have been some of the peak experiences that you take people on. What are some of your success stories?
I have a couple of success stories. I tend to work with people that were in the same boat as me. I think that’s the natural place to go when you’re a coach. You’re helping people to get to the same place that you got to. One of my clients that I’d met with was running a small business doing about $6,000 a month. It was taking over and he was miserable. He had a terrible track record of dating and hadn’t found the woman that he wanted to be with. I see this a lot. I see it where people are dying inside in their job or even in a business that they don’t love or fallen out of love with. I see their relationships are suffering because they’re not lit up. They’re not on a mission. They’re not doing what they love. It’s very hard to bring passion and love and excitement to a relationship. I usually see those two things going hand in hand.
What I did with them is worked to figure out, “What’s the biggest difference you want to make? What’s the mission you want to go after? What’s the thing that’s burning in your soul?” We came up with this incredible business idea. I don’t know how specific you want me to be about time, but we came about this incredible idea that eventually completely flourish like exploded into a multimillion-dollar business in eighteen months. It didn’t make sense how incredible it was. I helped him work on his dating life at the same time. We were working on the business and the mission that would light him up. Also, I’m giving him some challenges to stretch himself in terms of who he was dating. He’s now living in a huge penthouse in downtown Manhattan as literally as the fiance that he dreamed of and that he wrote out, “This is the exact person I would love to date.” They’re getting married on October 12th. It was astounding.
You started coaching people and then what keeps you going? Coaching is like airline piloting, you can also get burned out on that. How did you start the coaching business? What do you do to keep yourself in that juiced mode?
I’m glad you asked that question. I’m a very honest and authentic person and it’s been a tough journey. One thing that I’ve had to learn as a coach is for the first couple of years I was always on. You don’t think about flying. The flight is over. Whereas coaching, I’m thinking about clients, new clients, marketing and finance. I never stopped thinking about the business and I’m probably still guilty of that. That’s something I’ve struggled with. Trying to have boundaries around my business. I have burned out a couple of times. The one thing that I keep coming back to is my ethos. I want to help as many people as possible live an extraordinary life. Their version of an extraordinary life.
What I try to say to my clients is, “My first commitment to you is that I live an extraordinary life. If I’m not doing that, there’s no point in me trying to help you do that.” In the times that I get burned out or overwhelmed, I have to check-in and go, “Is my life extraordinary? Is this the life I dreamed of? You’ve been sitting in front of a laptop for eight days straight in your apartment in New York. Is this what you dreamed of when you left flying?” I have to go, “No.” For example, I decided to rent an RV and called out one of my best friends who I knew would say yes and said, “Come on, let’s go on an RV trip for five days. Let’s figure it out as we go.” Suddenly I’m lit up. I’ve got this adventure, this excitement and my business starts exploding because I’m excited again. I’m doing the things that light me up. That’s something I have to constantly check on.
It’s easy to work for somebody else because they put the boundaries. One thing I’ve noticed when I work for myself, the boundaries shift. My biggest thing is going to bed on time. I’ve been telling myself if it’s 11:00 at night, it’s not that important. Walk away.
The community thing is interesting too. I wonder how you deal with that? They don’t tell you this when you become a solopreneur. It was like, “You’re going to be spending a lot of time alone, a lot of time infront of the laptop and the boundaries are going to be a bit low.” How have you found the community?People have jobs or businesses that they don't love or have fallen out of love with. Click To Tweet
What I will do is I will take my work and I’ll go do it at a Starbucks or Panera or somewhere where I’m out in public. If I see anyone that looks interesting, I’ll force myself to start up a conversation. It’s not a matter of productivity, it’s a matter of getting out and connecting with people. You never know who you’re going to meet.
That’s it. You can’t become a hermit. You have to force yourself to make those connections.
That’s why these joint office spaces are popular and these coffee shops. When you work from home, you’re the one that has to make you get out of bed and go do something. What I do is I plan in days where I’m in my worst clothes. I don’t put any effort into myself, then I plan out days. When I’m out, I’m out all day and do like a job. How do our readers find you?
I’d love to talk to anybody. Anybody that’s bored with their business or any career, when they feel they have the golden handcuffs. They’ve got everything they wanted, but they still feel that emptiness inside. I would love to have a conversation with anyone like that. I’m happy to give them a free strategy session so we can find the truth and what’s going on. No obligation to do anything about it, but to explore and see what might be going on and why you might be feeling a little bit empty and a little bit disconnected and disengaged. Feel free to find me, NathanSeaward.com. There’s a free download you can get there, which is “The ten reasons why you won’t leave your job to start a business,” and the answers to each of those ten things. I have a podcast called the Nathan Seaward Show, which is on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and everywhere. Nathan Seaward on all the social media.
Thank you so much for sharing yourself with us. What is one parting thought you want to leave our readers with?
I’m always big on the first step to anything is awareness. Be honest with yourself. Take some time to do some journaling. You don’t have to tell anybody, but get honest about why you’re not happy. Why are you not happy in your life, your relationship, your finances, emotionally? Take a couple of minutes this week to get honest about your life.
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About Nathan Seaward
Nathan Seaward’s self-discovery took him from pilot to coach and now teaches his clients to do the same.
Nathan Seaward enjoyed a successful 16-year career as an airline pilot before becoming a personal coach and host of The Nathan Seaward Show. He believes, through the process of self-discovery and self-mastery, entrepreneurs can change the world whilst creating extraordinary lives for themselves and their families.
He supports entrepreneurs to create game-changing businesses that help people and the planet in new and innovative ways. From being a successful entrepreneur in the food industry to leaving at the height of his piloting career to serve others, he’s always lived at the edge of his comfort zone, taking on new and challenging things in service of being his best self and serving the world.
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